Florida is an abomination. That hurts given her inability to overmatch 25mm armour that's so commonplace within her matchmaking spread. ET (ESPN). (37% damage reduction for Arizona vs 36% for California). Florida Gov. California is very sneaky for a tier VII battleship. Gnei/Sharn is possibly more fun (depends on each person), but their guns are a lot less punchy compared to Lyon/Ashitaka, so you need to effectively use your torps. TALLAHASSEE Flexing his power over one of Floridas largest employers, Gov. Florida, on the other hand, would be much more enjoyable if Softer-skinned than contemporary battleships with 25mm extremities. And I mean that in the same way I tell my significant other that "it's fine" when things are clearly not. It's all of the little things which add up to a bad experience for me. If you asked me to point at the one thing that bugs me the most about them, I'd probably tell you it's the 4/s gun traverse, which seems stupid to complain about given all of the other issues. However, I think that this quibble illustrates my beef with Florida's gunnery as a whole. Her slow turret traverse is just that "one more thing" that feels off about this ship. No matter her advantages, there's always a big ol' butt attached. The uptick was led by a spike in homicide. I'd actually rather get California, because she's an extension of a ship type (US Standards) thatI have played a lot and really enjoy. It's comparable to Arizona's and they each have their strengths. Once you start shooting atbroadside targets? According to FBI data, there were a total of 1.3 million violent offenses reported in 2020, or 388 for every 100,000 people -- a 5% increase from 2019. The 0.8 second faster reload still does not make her feel like she has anything but a painfully slow rate of fire. Instead, it's so much thinned out swill with a rancid aftertaste, leaving you to wonder what could have been. QueensFGCU. This is largely owing to what should be her main selling feature being laughable. Taylor Jones. Unlike Arizona which finds herself occasionally enjoying the 36km x 36km claustrophobic maps of lower tiers, California more often than not sees the 42m x 42km and 48km x 48km maps of higher tiers. Im gonna judge based on the review its probably a Mehbote. I have spent a TON! The problem with simply looking at DPM charts is that it assumes everything is not only 100% accurate, but also that all shells perform equally when they strike a target. It patently ignores two crucial elements: As Roma so painfully demonstrated, you can have gorgeous paper stats but if you simultaneously struggle to (a) hit a target and (b) get anything other than over-penetrations, then your experience is going to be hella inconsistent. Florida has her own struggles, but at least she's very consistent when it comes to landing hits. Florida uses battlecruiser dispersion -- the same found on ninja-accurate battleships like Thunderer. Sadly, this isn't paired with a god-tier sigma value. Florida has 1.7 sigma competed to 1.9 of Thunderer or 2.0 of Champagne, so she doesn't feel quite so accurate as some of the higher-tiered snipers. The lower sigma means that the occasional shell will still fly wonky, though the smaller dispersion area means this won't be as wildly askew as other ships. In short: Florida's accuracy is good. You should land more hits per volley than her contemporaries which should help mitigate some of her DPM issues -- not all of them, but some. Are California's main battery guns better than Arizona's? Good range for a tier VII battleship, able to reach out to 21.6km with her APRM1 modification. In its win over Florida State on Monday night, UNC basketball set an all-time program record one that not many people probably saw coming. If I were to purchase one, Florida would get my money for sure., Whilst I appreciate the very solid review you have provided for yet another ship, I am far more appreciative of your last few paragraphs on @Critter8and the rest of you folks. Another review done really well. And she gains naught for these handicaps. experience with Arizona down at tier VI. March 1, 2023 10:00 am CT. Auburn baseball plays Florida A&M on Wednesday evening, and if youre wondering how you can watch the action live, youve come to the right place. And that's fair to say. Improved penetration on her AP shells for their calibre. California's citadel (in yellow) is fully submerged well below the waterline. Furthermore, that big 26mm area is just begging to receive hits from HE spam. However, without it being paired with improved agility or durability, this bonus is merely nice to have, rather than ship-defining. heh), and overall they tend to start fires quite a bit. For me she simply, "clicks". Results will vary. Tip from Donald L. Tucker Center is at 7 p.m. For me, Lyon is the best BB for Narai, Ashitaka being the second, due to their speed and DPM. February 28, 2023 11:24 am ET. At best, you might be able to setup an ambush and catch someone unawares but that's not likely to happen -- again because of that lack of speed. The only Florida Ive seen in Narai was deleted 3 minutes in somehow. Had she been strong, I think I could have just sat aside and let people discover that for themselves. Flak Bursts: 5 explosions for 1400 damage per blast at 3.5km to 5.8km.Long Ranged (up to 5.8km): 157.5dps at 75% accuracyMedium Ranged (up to 4.0km): 269.5dps at 75% accuracyShort Ranged (up to 2.0km): 318.5dps at 70% accuracy. USS California's inclusion in World of Warships bothers me on so many levels. All things told, it's not bad for helping keep shells out (especially when angling). March 1, 2023 10:00 am CT. Auburn baseball plays Florida A&M on Wednesday evening, and if youre wondering how you can watch the action live, youve come to the right place. Base/Minimum Surface Detection: 13.86km / 12.1kmBase/Minimum Air Detection Range: 10.08km/9.07kmDetection Range When Firing in Smoke: 12.01kmMaximum Firing Range: Between 18.62km and 25.92km, Flordia's concealment values are pretty darned good. She doesn't quite get into that magical sub-12km surface detection range which is quite impressive for a battleship, but at least she gets close. Given her preferred engagement distance, it's pretty easy for this ship to drop off from detection range in typical encounters -- especially given her long reload. If she had a bit more grunt in her engines, controlling the engagement through use of her stealth would be a lot more feasible, but her 27 knot top speed just isn't enough to kite away from all of the battleships she faces, to say nothing of cruisers and destroyers.. Thank you for everything. And thank you all for reading. Despite constant suggestions to give her improved accuracy and/or range on her secondaries, Wargaming wouldn't budge on keeping them standardized. Florida wins this battle hands down. That fact has lingered with me but perhaps I can make her work better than most. The historical design was called for a ship with nine 250 mm guns in three triple turrets with two superfiring at the front and one at the rear. As of December 2020, Floridas (preliminary) unemployment rate was at 6.1% while Californias was 9%. I'll play a shoddy ship back to back for hundreds of games provided she's fun (I've done it too -- I loved Atlanta before Surveillance Radar was a thing). USN could choose between type of plane, type of ordnance, etc. Hes played the game since then but you can tell he has not played it much based on HOW he plays some ships. The following is a review of USS Florida, the tier VII American premium battleship. This picture is the best thing I could think ofto illustrate CA's introduction to WoWs. For randoms it looks like she is a really tough ship to play, but what about Operations like Narai?, I give this rating 5 out of 10. In their past 10 See Full The following is a review of USS Florida, the tier VII American premium battleship. I did not pay for this ship. It was provided to me by Wargaming for evaluation purposes. To the best of my knowledge, the statistics discussed in this review are current as of patch 0.9.9. Please be aware that her performance may change in the future. This is why I prefer Lyon over them, but Gnei/Sharn are quite good for Narai too. California uses New Mexico's 356mm/50 caliber guns rather than Arizona's 356mm/45s. Hmm Thanks Mouse really good food for thought. If given the opportunity to fire nothing but AP, Florida does really well. Frankly, this is only going to happen if your opponents are idiots. You have to remain flexible with her ammunition choices. Keep the Expert Loader skill in mind. It's very handy for this ship if you're going to build a dedicated Florida captain. UNC heads to Tallahassee to face Florida State (9-20, 7-11) on Monday (7 p.m., ESPN) in the final road game of the regular season. Why Californians Are Moving to Florida Spending your entire life in the same state is not for everyone. Live stream California vs. Florida State on fuboTV: Start with a 7-day free trial! There should be no surprises for anyone here. However, the larger map sizes makes this a lot more problematic. +4% increased dispersion of enemy shells. Catch the excitement and bet with Tipico! California can give you some reasonable games. Sure -- they have better range and much better sigma than New Mexico's. You need to play a total of 20 battles to post in this section. Both wins and 109k average damage. The ship is showing to be in the top part of her class per the numbers so far. The reload time is my biggest issue.. Obsolete and irrelevant before she even hits the water. California's AP shells have higher penetration. California isn't difficult to play. COVID-19 Cases and Deaths in California vs Florida in Spring 2021 and Cumulative Through April 2021. Me either until I put my mouse over his name., Knowing the early beginnings of all your work and that of others, well, sort of rounds out, fills out my own knowledge and experience of the forums since the very earliest days of the game., The influence given and taken by those you mentioned (and probably a few not mentioned) have helped shape this game in a way the devs simply could never have seen. So, there are slow battleships in World of Warships and then there are the American premium standard-types. i feel like its an insult to the playerbase that WG expects people to actually spend about 50 bucks on this garbage, truly a waste of devs time and money but isnt that par for the course with WG nowadays? As nice as the raw penetration values are on Florida, she doesn't have a lot to spare once you aim at battleships in excess of 15km out. Using the usual tricks of aiming for softer sections of the hull can help, especially given Florida's reasonably tight dispersion to ensure good groupings. This helps somewhat, but again, angling is very effective against Florida's guns because she doesn't overmatch a whole lot of armour. If they don't want people comparing her to Arizona, Arizona needs to be pulled. Thank you for everything. And thank you all for reading. I'm going to take some time sorting and organizing some of my older reviews over the next week or so. There's a stigma against lower-calibre guns for having poor penetration performance and this is largely undeserved. American 356mm AP shells, for example, have very good penetration and Florida's is improved even beyond this. She is capable, for example, of penetrating upwards of 400mm worth of plate at 15km. She has more than enough punch to land citadel hits against just about any broadside target, including some of the softer-skinned battleships up to ranges of 20km. So you don't need to worry about Florida not having enough teeth to citadel an Iowa in most encounters, should the opportunity arise. I stress the word opportunity, however.. She would have felt immediately tankier but still vulnerable to higher tiered ships. I HATE when people hinge whether they are going to buy a ship or not based on her reivew. I'm left to wonder what the point of California's design implementation as is. This is a booby prize in the current meta. Louisiana: $2,546. Her stern is made up of composite layers of armour beneath the 26mm outer shell in a similar vein to Giulio Cesare's bow. Her 27 knot top speed has the illusion of meaning something only because she's an American battleship. All other American battleships from tier VII and below cap out around 21 knots as their top speed. With the nerfing to American Standard-type battleship agility with patch 0.9.6 Florida's speed advantage is even more pronounced. Were she a battleship from any other nation, her 27 knot top speed would be unremarkable. So yes, Florida is faster than Colorado or California. Big deal. So is everything else at this tier. Let's start with Florida's secondaries, because they're kind of neat in a pointless, fun bit of trivia kind of way. Florida's citadel layout tells you all you really need to know about this ship's durability. The TL:DR is that her citadel abuts against the exterior of her hull and it sits above the waterline. With only 285mm worth of belt protection, this exposed "T-section" of her citadel is stupid-easy to bullseye for waterline-aimed shots from enemy battleships. For 380mm+ AP shells aimed at her bows, her transverse bulkhead is almost as vulnerable. Summary so far: You're buying a longer-ranged Arizona. Carriers must anticipate that she will always have Defensive AA Fire ready and it's best to bait its use by ducking in and out of her 5.8km bubble and then waiting it out, even if she's not your primary target. Florida is effectively a no-fly zone for tier VI carriers because of this consumable and raw AA power combination which is a pretty impressive boast. Add on a catapult fighter and Florida duplicates this for tier VIII carriers too, at least until she comes under sustained HE attack. Big, punchy guns are a must. I prefer durability to agility, but I need one of those two elements to be present. If a battleship can't manage these things, they've got a big, uphill battle to win my affections. Some of them still manage it. Scharnhorst, for example, doesn't have the main battery guns to wow me, but she still pulls off a win between her secondaries, fish and the combination of speed and tankiness. I've tried to keep an open mind while play testing Florida, but good gravy, my time in her has not been pleasant. I'm under no illusions that this is very clearly a me problem. Florida herself is a well balanced ship. I just hate her. She doesn't have any one element of this trifecta that I enjoy in my battleships. Taylor Jones. Great work . as usual. Thank you @LittleWhiteMouse. Main Battery: Twelve 356mm/50 guns in 4x3 turrets in an A-B-X-Y superfiring configuration.Secondary Battery: Sixteen 127mm/38 guns in 8x2 turrets in superfiring pairs on either side of the ship facing fore and aft. Ron DeSantis exacts punishment, takes over Disney district on eve of book launch. However, she has enough problems already without considering CV strikes. Another review done really well. Thanks for your hard work. Well, I guess that settles that. The Gators average only 0.2 more points than the Wildcats allow (69.3). VERDICT: Not as nimble as you might expect. Good enough, I suppose, but definitely not one of her strengths. Tier VI+ battleships, tier VIII+ cruisers all have a minimum of 25mm worth of structural armour. But that 25mm+ threshold crops up in other places, such as the decks and amidship hulls of tier VI and VII heavy cruisers and the decks of tier VI and VII lights. California has a boring ol' 14% healed over 28s, not the 16.8% of the KGVs and Hood, the 40% Nelson or even Colorado's 18.48%. Simply put, it's the only thing which makes this ship viable as a tier VII vessel and even then it barely passes muster. Florida is pretty much a normal tier VII battleship with an exposed, vulnerable citadel and weak Repair Party. Well, this accidentally turned into a much longer review than I had intended. I was originally just going to line up Florida alongside California, compare the two and then pull a surprise-reveal that they both suck equally. Instead, I learned last week that Ship Comrade, the site run by @Critter8 that has hosted my reviews since the first quarter of 2016 was going to close down. Instead of working on how to cleverly cast shade on anyone that enjoyed either one of these tier VII American premium battleships, I spent the better part of two days going through years worth of archived jpegs and text, reflecting on the years I've spent writing for World of Warships and all of the help, support and encouragement Critter8 provided me. Once upon a time, seeing a ship with this much AA would have made me very excited. Lert really helped me appreciate the game play of the "American Bricks" way back in 2016. While California does have some minor improvements over Arizona, they are (in my opinion) inconsequential. To be fair, Phloopy Dooply is too busy shilling for another game, a very corrupt game that was able to force me to quit because of increasingly terrible customer service and terrible changes. Maybe Repair Party needs to be a little less unique on cruisers, other than UK zombie type or other such quirks. California has access to two camouflage patterns: Type 10 Camouflage California and Freedom -- California. The 0.1 sigma difference is imperceptible in game play -- you couldn't tell the difference if you tried. But that requires changes well beyond the skill tree, because if we went back 4+ years - sure Germany would still be king of secondary builds with it's 15 cm guns, but French and even ships like Mass would terrorize DD's and cruisers pushing in to caps with secondaries only worried about not getting torped for sailing in a straight line than 152 mm raining death from behind an island - unless it was aiming at the superstructure. Her protection scheme is otherwise fine though her snoot is a huge weak spot. It goes on and on like this. Yes, yes, yes, this is all in the name of BALANS, tovarish, and Florida's gunnery is balanced. I just don't like it. Usually it comes down to the captain to decide if a ship is worth it or not. HE pen on cruisers needs to be standardized beyond say national things like Germany having 1/4. VERDICT: You would think that for a sniper-battleship, her guns would be fun. But they're not fun. I didn't have fun at all with these weapons (except for maybe paddling a lolibote or two at very close range. Horrible gun handling and appalling gun firing angles. You need speed to reach thatposition in time, but if you do, you can sink MO in two salvos, allowing you to not rely on torps by other ships to take it down. California's AP penetration is okay. Decent gunnery dispersion with 1.9 sigma. The property tax in Florida averages at 0.98% whereas in California it is 0.73%. The perks they gave her to compensate, namely good AA, nice range, good concealment and more accurate guns, don't cut the mustard for me. Im gonna judge based on the review its probably a Mehbote. Mileage probably determined on if you want a premium USN BB for Narai or not. Would you prefer if they decided based on other CCs instead? Make IJN CV's actually historical, there are a number of options because while personally I'd restrictattack planes to the bombs they actually carried being HE, the standard torps and/or SAP DB's could be swapped out for Level Bombing AP (800 kg) bombs or Level Bombing carpet bombers (cause IJN TB's could and did do that kind of stuff). The horrible fire arcs on California's guns will necessitate more manoeuvring to swing out her guns and then duck back which will only ensure she's stuck on the lower end of this speed. +1 on the review but I am enjoying the Florida. Florida's "Golden Eagle" camouflage has the same pin-up girl on her funnel as the camouflage made available for the new American tech tree battleships. I'm surprised by how much I enjoy this camo, though that may simply be because I'm not big on the other two. The issue, though, is that they're not improved enough over the tier VI premium's to be worthwhile. Sadly, Florida's HE are lacking. Their modest damage per-shell and slow reload might not be such a bad handicap if their fire chance was better, but her fire chance per shell is horrible. The 22% value she's shackled with is downright painful for such a slow rate of fire. Getting one permanent fire to burn is a feat, never mind doubling up. Her HE performance is so bad that I would happily recommend sticking with AP spam if it weren't for the aforementioned issue with angled and higher-tiered targets. It's stupid-important to be patient with your shots. Look for opportune targets where you can maximize her AP efficiency. You don't want to have to start spamming HE. Similarly, you don't want to force encounters where this is your sole option. Florida doesn't have the armour or hit points to facilitate trades against same-tier (or even tier VI) opponents. Blapping a full broadside of HE into an enterprising lolibote is hilarious, don't get me wrong -- her improved accuracy means that she easily can land four to six shells (or more!) LittleWhiteMouse, October 12, 2020 in General Game Discussion. This is why I took issue with West Virginia appearing in her Pearl Harbor mien and not that of Surigao Strait. Top Speed: 27 knotsTurning Radius: 760mRudder Shift Time: 15.4 seconds4/4 Engine Speed Rate of Turn: 4.1/s.
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